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Re: Holland’s Successor [message #830063 is a reply to message #830060 ]	Thu, 22 February 2024 10:17

smyth260
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RDOilerfan wrote on Thu, 22 February 2024 09:03

smyth260 wrote on Thu, 22 February 2024 09:47

I also said his only other experience managing a hockey team is the junior team that he co-owns with his brother Dale Hunter. So he is his own boss and is accountable to no one.

That is also information that I don’t think qualifies you for an NHL GM position.

Running an NHL team is much different than being your own boss for a junior team. It requires a wider set of skills. You are dealing with contract negotiations, managing the salary cap, a billionaire owner, making all sorts of hires for an AHL team/executives/pro scouting/junior scouting/analytics department. It is much more than identifying junior talent.

So yes, for the information we do have, I think there are probably much better candidates. Is that rational enough for you or do you want to go on a tangent about the Dubas run Leafs again?

What did Kelly McCrimmon who is the Vegas GM do before? He was a junior GM for many years, was AGM of Vegas for a very short time then got the GM job.

What did the Canucks GM do? He was an agent. That's not even managing a junior team. He seems to be doing a pretty good job.

Staios spent a little time with the Leafs, then went to junior, then became the hot commodity.

Hughes for Montreal was an agent.

I'm not going to list all the guys who aren't retreads or guys who spent decades as AGM's. I think it's complete BS that the GM has to have all this experience in the NHL to do the job. Holland has more experience than a person could want yet, people like yourself think he sucks. So in my opinion, you are talking out of both sides of your mouth to try and be right. You want a guy with new ideas and is forward thinking but then you want a guy with lots of experience.

In my opinion, if the GM should be forward thinking and bringing new, fresh ideas, a guy who's spent a long time in the NHL is not that guy.

I would love if the Oilers talked to some agents. They certainly can have some of the skills required. Namely, managing the salary cap, negotiating contracts, navigating the CBA. That is a great starting point.

Clean house or bust

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Holland’s Successor	By: smyth260 on Wed, 21 February 2024 16:00
Re: Holland’s Successor	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 21 February 2024 16:06
Re: Holland’s Successor	By: smyth260 on Wed, 21 February 2024 16:17
Re: Holland’s Successor	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 21 February 2024 16:26
Re: Holland’s Successor	By: smyth260 on Wed, 21 February 2024 16:40
Re: Holland’s Successor	By: RDOilerfan on Wed, 21 February 2024 16:58
Re: Holland’s Successor	By: smyth260 on Wed, 21 February 2024 17:07
Re: Holland’s Successor	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 22 February 2024 08:06
Re: Holland’s Successor	By: smyth260 on Thu, 22 February 2024 08:51
Re: Holland’s Successor	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 22 February 2024 09:27
Re: Holland’s Successor	By: smyth260 on Thu, 22 February 2024 09:47
Re: Holland’s Successor	By: RDOilerfan on Thu, 22 February 2024 10:03
Re: Holland’s Successor	By: smyth260 on Thu, 22 February 2024 10:17
Re: Holland’s Successor	By: Mike on Thu, 22 February 2024 12:23
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Re: Holland’s Successor	By: CrusaderPi on Thu, 22 February 2024 13:16
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